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Post by untitled on Nov 6, 2004 13:18:47 GMT -6
i definitely never viewed you as a lazy writer, and that definitely is not evident in your stuff (at least what i've seen. including some stimulating short ones i've seen  ) i think maybe, you might feel better about your characters if you made them jump. i will say, i agree, it can be easy to fall back into characters, even after a long time, when you know them well. its been easy for me to get back into writing semi-charmed. because i know those people so well. but what's been interesting for me, has been planning and writing ode-to-maybe. same characters, for the most part. taylor and angel are both in their central roles again. but they're moved forward 5 years. they go from being 18 to being 23. 5 years may be a short time, but there are big lifestyle changes in those specific 5 years. i'm excited in all kinds of new ways to work on ode-to-maybe. because i don't really know these characters. i know who they *were* but i haven't fully found out who they are. and that makes this process really interesting, and really challenging. maybe trying something like that would help you. making your characters jump in time, or go through something life-altering. because then they're new people, new characters. thats a really interesting and fulfilling challenge. and you don't have to abandon characters you, or your readers, love. |
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Post by krystal on Nov 6, 2004 14:45:47 GMT -6
Really, that's exactly what has happened to the Zac character in "Best Laid Plans" (pt. 3 of the stephanie-trilogy). So, there you have it! Stimulating Stephanie!
5 years is enough to COMPLETELY change a character!
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Post by untitled on Nov 6, 2004 20:40:00 GMT -6
hah. figures, i open my big mouth to try and be helpful, and really, just ending biting down real hard on my foot. lol. i definitely should have looked over blp before i commented, as that's the one i haven't read. (i'm kind of sad about it, honestly. since steph has gone on hiatus. i'm kind of afraid to read it...too final, or something. i dunno. i'm weird. i still haven't finished lived, for fear of actually running out of llama stories to read. i feel like finishing lived would be like admitting an era is over.) enh. whatever. i'm used to opening foot, inserting mouth . i'll survive this time too. but yeah. i do think yanking your character through something life altering, even if that just means dragging them through a few years, is something that makes writing a bit more challenging and stimulating. and its fun to get to know your characters all over again. |
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Post by krystal on Nov 6, 2004 22:12:34 GMT -6
Aw, Stephanie won't be able to stay away for long...she digs Hanson and this community of crazies too much to do that.
So, are you going to be updating soon? I see a big old mess on the Taylor horizon, but, ya never know!
krystal
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Post by untitled on Nov 7, 2004 1:11:59 GMT -6
shelby and i are right now in the process of totally revamping fall on your knees. redoing it from the ground up, really. so that's been consuming all of my time lately. i'm halfway through the next chapter of semi-charmed, though. so as soon as we got foyk back up and running, i'll be getting back to the new chapter. i can't give anything away. but i will say that the immediate horizon is looking relatively good |
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Post by krystal on Nov 7, 2004 9:34:01 GMT -6
It's so good to see some of these hallowed old sites coming back to life again!!!
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Post by Ella on Nov 7, 2004 22:20:45 GMT -6
Sounds like something I'll be reading one of these boring nights made for fanfic-reading.  Oh and Ella, (if you read this post) are you in Kentucky? I live in Tennessee. ::waves:: Sorry, Casey, I completely by-passed your reply when I last read this post! hehe. Yep, I'm a KY girl. Lexington, specifically. Krystal is a KYian too -- Louisville native. Whereabouts in Tennessee are you? |
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Post by llamaesque on Nov 7, 2004 22:26:22 GMT -6
"It's so good to see some of these hallowed old sites coming back to life again!!!" Amen. I'd given up on hanfic for a long time, thusly my terrible treatment of Various Artists. It seemed like there was nothing new out there anymore, so why was this site needed? But look at it now...hopping As I always say, thank god for Krystal and Stephanie--a great wonder of hanfan world has been revived! About the Mary Sues. They're definitely out there, but it seems like they're largely a product of the first wave. If Hanfic was the real world, the entire female population of America would have moved next door to the Hansons in 1997, much as every modern-day fangirl wants to be swept off to Mirkwood to shag Legolas silly. (Myself included.) The hanfic authors who stuck around grew out of that phase, and probably someday the LOTR authors will, too. I think our community grew past true "Mary Sue" quickly because of some great role models, ones that encouraged us to reach past the tacky crap we could be writing and find some truth. Gretchen in Tulsa 74---, for example, is the perfect Mary Sue done right. She wasn't flawless, but I think she was very much a stand in for the authors and a lot of their readers. She was pudgy and nervous and shy and couldn't imagine what Taylor Hanson wanted with her. Gretchen was a true, flawed character of the type that everyone I've seen posting on this board writes. We might not have all been directly influenced by the Tulsa 74--- girls, but I really feel like the ripple effect made a huge difference in the hanfic status quo. |
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Post by Lilith on Nov 8, 2004 9:42:37 GMT -6
Ashley dives into storylines like there's no tomorrow! Now if I can just make her finish some! You and me both! *chuckles* I have so many of her stories on my computer, and a good deal of them are unfinished. She told me that she was rewriting one of her fics that I have hosted on my site, The Other Brother, but I've yet to see any of it. Let's hope it happens sometime soon. |
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Post by krystal on Nov 8, 2004 21:54:38 GMT -6
She told me she was working on that one!
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Post by JenniferA on Nov 9, 2004 0:43:03 GMT -6
I'd like to think the real Taylor is really as smart and sweet as mine, but I doubt it... or that the real Isaac is as patient as mine... and so on. But really, I know that the only similarities are probably their name and a few real-life details. My story barely feels like a Hanfic at times -- I forget that I'm writing about Hanson. I don't know what he's really like around the people who know him well, but when I read those 6 plus page threads on fan encounters at Hanson.net, Taylor comes off fairly close to your version. Except maybe goofier and more odd. To me, he's the funniest. Just not always intentionally |
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Post by Barbara on Nov 9, 2004 1:24:20 GMT -6
I don't think I write Taylor like he really is, or like I've heard him to be. I've heard he can be very...spacey. I'm not good at writing spacey.
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Post by krystal on Nov 9, 2004 6:24:23 GMT -6
I think real life Taylor is one of those brilliant people. And that makes them deficient in the everyday common sense kinds of things at times...does that make sense?
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Post by Barbara on Nov 9, 2004 7:21:51 GMT -6
I think real life Taylor is one of those brilliant people. And that makes them deficient in the everyday common sense kinds of things at times...does that make sense? It makes perfect sense, and I think you may be right. He gets the joke about 5 seconds too late...something like that. |
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Post by llamaesque on Nov 9, 2004 20:24:45 GMT -6
The ultimate Taylor description, as far as I'm concerned, was coined by one of Laura's friends: "he looks like he'd be distracted by butterflies." I guess anybody would find it hard to function like a normal person living like that boy does--with one foot in the dreamy otherwold of the gods, and the other in fairy tale Hanson land |
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